Posted by: admin on Mon, Dec 12, 2016
another lie told to us by religion and churches,findout for your self
Suicide IS NOT An UNFORGIVABLE SIN
by Chaplain Jimmie W. Warren
In an attempt to set people’s minds at ease when losing a loved one due to taking their own lives, I will try my utmost to show you that dying by one’s own hand is not an “ unforgivable sin ” as most churches preach---without facts from the Bible. You are probably aware that there are many famous church hierarchy who still teach this “ LIE ” about (Suicide) being a UNFORGIVABLE SIN to GOD, preaching to many of you while growing up in their man made churches. Many of these self-righteous, religious and pious men of the cloth, who are mostly self appointed church leaders, ARE WRONG AND LYING TO YOU! Live everyday as if it is your last and things will be different,I promise.REMEMBER TODAY WE ARE ALL ONE DAY CLOSER TO GOD'S HOLY KINGDOM. AMEN!
They teach from false teaching of centuries old church doctrines written a long time ago and still telling their people, “ that those who take their own life are bound to live in torment forever in a ever-burning hell where demons are sticking them and torching them forever and ever because they were too weak as fallen sinners and need the pain and suffering for what they did? What a stupid Idea this is, let alone showing no real PROOF from the Holy word of God which they say, “ we cannot understand for our self therefore they teach what the bible says !” (Suicide) is a teaching they made up called Doctrines of the church.
Beloved friends, It is time to quit thinking your loved ones are gone forever and that you will never see them again because of a few FALSE man-made laws or doctrines which were taught from a pulpit with just a man behind it, telling you the baloney stories they still try to pull on us today. Then they wonder why so many people are leaving all the organized religious churches who teach nothing about GRACE and Forgiveness given to everyone from an all loving God who does all the judging of people.
This “Ever-burning Hell-fire” is a satanic idea! You know where all the saints are sitting around an open fire and enjoying seeing sinners burning and screaming everyday while we are supposed to be happy in Gods kingdom forever while this goes on? COME ON PEOPLE THINK, HOW EVIL this would be! Watching People burn on fire, screaming out to God for help, while we so-called good people, just watch from afar while millions of people are in pain and we go on to be happy for all time--- THAT IS A TOTALLY EVIL IDEA don’t you think?
This is Not a VERY Godly idea at all IS IT? Nor is it anywhere near the all loving God our Father would do, that I have read and studied about in his word through out the Bible, where it shows HIS GRACE AND LOVE is everywhere you read, even before he sent his Only Begotten Son to “forgive ALL SINS” from the cross!
The early church ideas, along with their religious men from the old Roman Catholic Church Doctrines, were the ones who made up the name for killing one’s self as “ self murder.” Lets Take a look for that word self-murder in your own Bibles hum, NOT THERE IS IT? You see these same evil, self-righteous men went even further by adding longer unforgiving lists of what they taught to be unforgivable sins. Then they, along with other un-biblical truths they took upon themselves and added and subtracted other church doctrines alone with dogma teaching, with even more ritualistic, mumble jumble, righteousness junk while saying “Latin words” to confuse the common man. Then they used sayings and teachings that we the people could not possibly understand the Bible so, they would do it for us. After all, we are too stupid to see or understand our own Bibles. Well to their dismay, today we can see through their bull pucky by reading our bibles and by the power of the Holy Spirit revealing the truth from these studies of our own Bibles, showing their errors of teaching!
Many, many years ago, a Pope of Rome, took from Dante’s Play called “The Inferno” which is just a play from his nightmare dream about the 10 layers of Hell and of the tortured souls of humans- in different stages of torment which lasted forever. The Catholic Church took from this play, then made it into a church truth; all that suffering from one man’s nightmare, still using this fear teaching to scare people into keeping them doing what they think was right. Still even today in their churches under these fear tactics about a non-acceptable biblical doctrine of an ever - burning HELL FIRE is a FALSE TRUTH for you and me to believe?
I guess they didn't’t believe OUR ALL LOVING GOD, THE ONE WHO sacrificed himself for those they deemed not good enough, that even weak, pitiful men and women who kill themselves could not be covered by the BLOOD OF JESUS like any other sins we commit? YESHUA’S SAVING BLOOD, WHICH IS GIVEN TO COVER ALL MANKIND’S SINS—YES, ALL SINS--except THAT ONE WHICH THEY NAMED Suicide or killing oneself? THEY ARE DOOMED FOREVER because they put it in their church doctrines and all Protestant Churches that were started afterwards still teach these same false doctrines and lies TODAY. People please ,you must study your bibles to know the real teachings of God. Do not just listen to what any pastor says is true or not, read it your own selves to know for sure.
DO YOU THINK THEY ARE CORRECT OR NOT? Lets take a look at more details about this unforgivable act of killing oneself. Here are some interesting facts about the word men call Suicide or self- murder, or to kill ones self,“ Suicide ”It is from the (Latin suicidium) and from (sui caedere), ("to kill oneself ") is the act of intentionally causing one's own death. Suicide is the last desperate act of taking one's own life on purpose, or to knowingly do something which causes one’s self to die! Suicidal behavior is any action that could cause a person to die, such as taking a drug overdose, or crashing a car on purpose, hanging ones self, or there are many other forms that cause one to cease being alive.
Over one million people die by suicide every year (1,000,000). Even more now with our men and women who are coming home from these horrid wars and not adjusting back to a normal life; they wind up taking themselves out because they see no way out of going back to “normal” living. More military men and women died last year 2012 from suicide than from combat and we can not fix it?
What is wrong with our society anyway? Maybe, not having GOD or Prayer taught to our kids in school anymore leads to teaching there is no way out of big problems? People see killing themselves as the only way out of their problems when taught there is no higher power to build hope in God saving them? What do you think?
The World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that suicide is the (13th) leading cause of death worldwide and the National Safety Council rates it sixth (6th) in the United States. It is a leading cause of death among teenagers and adults under 20-35 years of age. The rate of suicide is far higher in men than in women, with males worldwide three to four times more likely to kill themselves than females. There are an estimated 10 to 20 million non-fatal attempted suicides every year worldwide. These numbers have increased among the men and women returning from our wars today.
Almost nothing is being done to stop people from this epidemic by any means? Our own United States government is doing almost nothing as more and more service personal kill themselves even more now while on active duty during these wars.
The pressure from our way of life is causing even ordinary people to kill themselves while some are even taking out others with themselves even innocent children of late! They kill their fellow workers or their bosses, or now kids in a school are under pressure of bulling so they kill others then themselves, and still others are shooting people while watching a movie or in our shopping malls etc.
Again dearest loved ones, I am attempting to show to those who have lost their loved ones to this horrid kind of death (Suicide) that it is not an unforgivable sin. I am sorry to say but, it seems that the Catholic Church bears the biggest blame and the other churches who preach this same doctrine of unforgiven sins which is not from the Bible, the same Bible from where we get our laws of life and death. The words of ( Self Murder / Suicide) are not found in the Bible! It is all a LIE being taught by religious teachings from men who make up their own religious pointed views and preach it to their own innocent people that it is a unforgivable sin.
When a death comes suddenly and brings about a sudden loss to us and our families and friends, it causes all involved to have many questions and to have hopelessness feelings of great guilt. Feeling like, why didn't’t anyone see it coming? Why we didn't’t see the problems of our beloved person before they died. Why didn't’t he or she talk to us before taking their life? Family always wants to know why their loved ones saw suicide as the only answer to their personal problems, or why it was the only way out of their problems?
Many religions, teach, when someone kills them self by self murder then they are lost forever, and they cannot ask God for forgiveness ever, or that they can not be buried in consecrated ground. The only problem is that this is a man-made up idea. The real truth is that ONLY GOD CAN GIVE A LIFE OR TAKE A LIFE and again folks Self-murder IS NOT IN THE BIBLE. This term of (SELF MURDER,) WHO was it who called it that, it was just some man or men of some religious church? WHO made up this term anyway AND WHERE IN THE Bible is it? It is a Religious self-righteous man-made idea along with many other FALSE DOCTRINES made from the mother church of all modern churches who just keep lying to people to keep them under their thumbs.
This wrong ideology---that everybody who commits suicide is doomed to go to Hell to burn-forever for their punishment for not making it in this life like the rest of us. They are considered “ weak people”. Again IT is a big Fat LIE. These lies are still being taught by man with made-up church doctrines and is not in Gods Holy word the Bible, at least the truer Bible called the “King James Version “. Catholics today still teach from their own Catholic Bibles, that in suicide, people have cheated God out of his job when people die by killing themselves therefore deserve to be punished forever.
God, who is supposed to be an all loving God, this God of theirs, he puts his mistaken children, that’s millions of his children, into a hellfire that burns day and night, forever burning with lots of screaming and nashing of teeth and torment all because they didn't’t ask for needed help but, did not get any help from their God, this teaching leaves lots of questions of why don’t you think? I am sure many were even praying for forgiveness before killing themselves. We know from the Bible that even Judas “repented” just before he hanged himself on a tree, we read in ( Matt 27:5) : Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he(Jesus the Christ) was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders. Saying I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said what is that to us? See thou to that. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.”
The reason I am pointing this out is that many men in the Bible killed themselves or caused their own deaths before dying therefore, using the true meaning of Suicide, they all died by their own hands. Some of these men were of God like SAMSON, and KING SAUL. The Philistines fought against Israel; the Israelites fled before them, and many fell slain on Mount Gilboa. The Philistines pressed hard after Saul and his sons, and they killed his sons Jonathan, Abinadab and Malki-Shua. The fighting grew fierce around Saul, and when the archers overtook him, they wounded him critically. Saul said to his armor-bearer, "Draw your sword and run me through, or these uncircumcised fellows will come and run me through and abuse me." But his armor-bearer was terrified and would not do it; so Saul took his own sword and fell on it. When the armor-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he too fell on his sword and died with him.
Why is there no condemnation shown by God if this suicide was an unforgivable sin as church leaders so often preach? They look down their self-righteous noses and say horrid things about people who kill themselves, some will not even bury them in their graveyards because of such a sin? Why doesn't’t GOD SAY ANYTHING about it in his holy word if suicide is so horrible?
Now lets take the bible account of what Samson did after he sinned against God when he was forgiven he tore down the temple he was chained to knowing he would die (Suicide) he pulled down the temple of the Pagans and killed them all. Then Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines!" Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived. Read about others in the old testament who put their lives in danger or death to save others or kill enemies of God which was Suicide by the true meaning of the word. (JUDGES 16:30) “ And Samson said, let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might ; and the house fell upon all the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew with his death were more than they which he slew in his life.”
Now we are going to get into what suicides happen in the Bible for you to read about yourself. Remember Suicide is taking or causing something to take your own life.
First : I want to use the story found in THE Bible about King Saul and his son Jonathan you see after they were defeated in battle, they fell on their own swords and by the true definition of the word (SUICIDE) they both died by their own hand.
Second: we have Samson who after repenting of his sins, ask God for his strength back so he could kill all the Pagans around him in their temple and their false God. Knowing he would bring about his own demise and die with the heathens there, he pushed the pillars that held the temple and statue of their God and the whole temple came down on all those inside killing them all including SAMSON (therefore SUICIDE by his own hand) and God let it happen, he did not stop Samson or talk him out of it.
Now I know many of you are thinking by now I am a little nuts but, by the definition of the word SUICIDE (one who causes his or her own death, or hires someone to kill him or her, or knows someone who will kill them and goes on to meet with that person “ is committing suicide.”
Suicide is a tragic event with strong emotional repercussions for its survivors and for families of its victims. It happens so fast we do not have time to adjust or be ready to not have that person gone from our lives. It has been 10 years this year August 2013 since losing my only brother, even understanding where Nick was coming from in his mind, I was not surprised because he had said to me a day or two before he died by his own hand, He said while on the phone with me just hours before he died “ if things started going back to the way they were and she(Nick’s wife) starts secretly calling him again: I am going home to our Mom and Dad and Jesus to be free from all this ----. Brother don’t be mad at me, I just want to go be with Jesus and Mom and Dad.” He also said “ if I ever take my own life, it would be a gun to my head to make sure I do not miss. The strange thing was, he was sitting in the hallway of his home with a rifle pointed at his liver, not his head? He some how used his big toe in the trigger while holding the rifle to his chest area and fired some Statistics say only 10 % or less can shoot themselves that way?
Only God knows how he died that night and thankfully JESUS is our judge, not men. Amen!
I know God is our all loving Father and will forgive his children of all their sins, even suicide or what some call self murder your Bible tells you this, the word suicide is not anywhere in the bible so, how can people be sent to a ever- burning hell?
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST--- is not’t his blood strong enough to save those who repent before they do what they did? How many do repent and ask God to forgive them before jumping off a bridge or some high building? Can’t JESUS forgive all them for being broken from THIS LIFE’S problems?
What about all those in their grave who made a mistake of committing suicide? The accidental suicide rate is over 50%. What--- they can’t be forgiven for what they did either? These accidental suicides couldn't’t see a way out of their problems and needed help in seeing another way out from all of their problems. To bad for those millions upon millions, huh, they are all, yes all of them lost, FOREVER? Do you not think that every drop of Jesus blood isn’t good enough to save everybody who repented of killing themself?,
No one KNOWS for sure how many suicides that people commit, may have said that they were sorry just before doing what they did before killing themselves, but God did and HE HEARD their cries?
Judas was not only a disciple and student learning under his master, Yeshua Messiah/Jesus, He was also a very close friend for more than 3 years. Judas loved Jesus and some write that he had the idea and thought that by having Jesus turned over to the Pharisees, then they would see Jesus was the Messiah and the Kingdom of heaven would come faster. When Judas rose from the table to go turn Jesus over to the Holy Men of the Temple, the Bible says SATAN ENTERED INTO JUDAS so, the word could be fulfilled and the JEWS’ MESSIAH would die for them and all mankind is saved by the blood of the cross FROM WHICH YESHUA /JESUS SUFFERED AND DIED FOR YOU AND ME MY FRIENDS, YOU AND ME.
After Judas saw Jesus face and the beating Jesus had taken , he was so depressed that he took the money back to the Holy Leaders of the Temple and threw it back at the temple! The Bible goes on to say that Judas did repent for what he had done before he then hanged himself, or committed suicide.
What about people repenting before or during their SUICIDE, what if they tell God they are sorry for what they are doing ? Will God Almighty, giver and taker of life, OUR All loving Father GOD of all his children, who sent his only begotten son to live—not listen? Jesus gave himself over to let the people kill him, so in the full sense of the meaning of suicide here, Jesus was letting his people kill him, knowing who it was that would slap him, who would spit on him, the names of everyone who made fun of him, who if he had wanted could have stopped his death at any time.
But, he went ahead and let them kill him so to complete what was written about him and what he came down here to do for every man and woman on the face of the earth, which was to die for the sins of all mankind!
Self-sacrifice on behalf of another is not necessarily considered suicide by some in our society; the subjective goal is not to end one's own life, but rather to save the life of another. However, in Émile Durkheim's theory, such acts are termed "This is a form of Suicide, Like a fellow G.I. jumping on a bomb to save his friends, HE DIES A HERO but, it is still suicide even to save friends.
Here in America we have movie hero’s like John Wayne, who showed us in many war movies and also westerns, that giving your life to save others is a good thing but, getting yourself killed is still suicide no matter how you slice it.
Now lets take a look at the “death” of our Lord YESHUA MESSIAH /JESUS CHRIST along with the facts and what he knew of his own death which he kept telling his trusted disciples many, many times of his death! They didn't’t hear him and did not understand what Yeshua was about to let happen to himself. Remember Jesus knew every detail before it happened and could have stopped all of it if he wished. You decide, see what you think?
1. Jesus came to earth on a mission to die for the people of this world.
2. Jesus knew who was going to betray him and cause his death,
3. Jesus knew the men by name that beat him with the whip that tore open his body to the point no one could recognize him.
4. Jesus knew the names of the priests who laughed and teased him to come down off the cross.
5. Jesus knew the men who after nailing him to the cross then started to bet for his clothes in a dice game
6. Jesus knew who it was that spit in his face
7. Jesus knew who pierced his hands and said “ behold when I return those who pierced me, shall see the holes in my hands and my feet.”
JESUS KNEW ALL ABOUT HIS DEATH and EVEN WHO WOULD HANG HIM ON THE CROSS but HE walked into dying on that cross willingly because, he had to die for all our sins, therefor by the definition of the word suicide our Lord JESUS COMMITTED SUICIDE, TO SAVE ALL MANKIND, DIDN'T’T HE?
AGAIN IN BOLD LETTERS: I AM NOT SAYING IT IS ALRIGHT TO KILL YOURSELF, FOR ANY REASON, BUT THOSE WHO DID, ARE IN THE HANDS OF THE LORD NOW. AMEN! He will judge them for their act and the state of mind they were in when they ended their lives. It is not up to some church or men of some man-made doctrine which they decided to use to condemn our loved ones Amen!. “Our Loved ones every single soul, are all in Jesus and he is the one who made us. Yes, Your loved ones are not in a hell burning Fire and they are forgiven, so, please do not be worried about their souls for our Lord JESUS is a just God. He is not a harsh judging God who would sit around watching his created people burning forever.
Its all these false Priests and teachers of religion, who just keep teaching in ERROR OF A COMPLETE LIE! Some going so far to not even do a funeral for those poor souls who took their lives--- Loved ones that were scarred by this life, seeing NO other answer or any way out except DEATH! –May God forgive them for teaching such hurtful doctrines and untrue lies!
NO FORGIVENESS FOR KILLING ONE’S SELF IS A LIE, BASED ON MEN WHO STARTED THAT LIE THEY MUST NOT KNOW JESUS OF THE BIBLE? THE YESHUA MESSIAH WHO OVER CAME DEATH, SO THAT WE MAY HAVE LIFE FOREVER IN THE SOON COMING KINGDOM OF OUR ALL LOVING FATHER GOD . AMEN!
I was so pressured in spirit to write this article to help ease all your pain and doubt, May YAHWAY our Father God bless your soul and give you peace in your hearts and minds.
I pray this helps many of you out there ,with all the pain, and all the questions, of each of us who have lost a loved one to SUICIDE. I pray you all may have peace knowing for sure that their souls are back with God who gave it in the first place. I want you to know for sure your brother, sister, mother, father and all of your loved ones will be with you one day very soon. Let us all give thanks and praise to Jesus who conquered even death!
In YESHUA ‘S Name your fellow servant
Bishop/Chaplain Jimmie Warren
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